[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107742] New: [META] Form control bugs and enhancements

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Bug ID: 107742
Summary: [META] Form control bugs and enhancements
Product: LibreOffice
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All
OS: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: medium
Component: LibreOffice
Assignee: libreoffice-***@lists.freedesktop.org
Reporter: ***@hotmail.com
Depends on: 106810, 107006, 107206, 105467


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105467
[Bug 105467] EDITING: Formcontrols - properties got an empty tab without any
property
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106810
[Bug 106810] set transparent background color in form controls
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107006
[Bug 107006] Form control properties / Background color / Can only apply
recently-used colors
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107206
[Bug 107206] form control List Box drop down does not work

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
CC| |***@nouenoff.nl,
| |***@t-online.de,
| |***@utsa.edu
Ever confirmed|0 |1

--- Comment #1 from Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> ---
Meta bug for form controls that can be inserted with the Insert > Form Control
submenu, design mode activation with Edit > Design Mode, the Control and Form
dialogs accessible through the context menu and the various dialogs found in
Tools > Forms.

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Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |61063, 54235


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54235
[Bug 54235] FILESAVE: FORMCONTROLS: Form element data loss when saving in .docx
format, text field
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61063
[Bug 61063] FILESAVE: Field Text not shown when saving in format .docx

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |104523


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104523
[Bug 104523] [META] DOCX Form related issues

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

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Depends on|61063 |


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61063
[Bug 61063] FILEOPEN: DOCX - Textbox and its text not shown after reopening

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on|54235 |


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54235
[Bug 54235] FILESAVE: FORMCONTROLS: Form element data loss when saving in .docx
format, text field

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |45724


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45724
[Bug 45724] FILESAVE: DOC - Text field data loss and regression in background
color

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |107867


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107867
[Bug 107867] Crash when working with form

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |107981


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107981
[Bug 107981] Not possible to reset color to Automatic in form control
properties dialog

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 107981, which changed state.

Bug 107981 Summary: Not possible to reset color to Automatic in form control properties dialog
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107981

What |Removed |Added
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Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |108687


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687
[Bug 108687] Form option buttons not reachable when tab key

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |100374


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100374
[Bug 100374] FILEOPEN: XLSX - Form imported with wrong setting for a list box

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |104309


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104309
[Bug 104309] Scrollbar form element is lost entirely when saving as xlsx

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 105160, which changed state.

Bug 105160 Summary: Combo Box Wizard: Text is cut even though there is enough space to display it
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105160

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |112130


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112130
[Bug 112130] Hyperlink button doesn't have hyperlink edit entry in context menu

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Thomas Lendo <***@gmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |55848


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55848
[Bug 55848] FormControls : Can't modify the size of a check box

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |54593


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54593
[Bug 54593] EDITING - forms should show and hide toolbars automatically

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Thomas Lendo <***@gmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |31270


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31270
[Bug 31270] Impress V3.3.0 Beta does not save Interactions that are assigned to
Form Controls

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Thomas Krumbein <***@mic-consulting.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |107092


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107092
[Bug 107092] Writer Forms - real problems: formating text, option-checkbox,
background-colours

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |113363


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113363
[Bug 113363] [META] DOCX (OOXML) content control-related issues

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Yousuf Philips (jay) <***@hotmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |112411


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112411
[Bug 112411] Merge toolbar "More Forms" with "Form Controls"

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Buovjaga <***@suomi24.fi> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |113680


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113680
[Bug 113680] FILEOPEN XLS Named Ranges in form controls are dropped on open

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Dieter Praas <dgp-***@gmx.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |116702


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116702
[Bug 116702] FORMCONTROL: Option button behavior and tabbing are in conflict,
naming convention is suspect

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Dieter Praas <dgp-***@gmx.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |79542


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79542
[Bug 79542] FORMCONTROLS: .xls - Option buttons contained in group boxes are
not grouped.

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Dieter Praas <dgp-***@gmx.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |85339


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85339
[Bug 85339] FORMCONTROLS: Tabindex is ignored for fields withe the same name

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Aron Budea <***@caesar.elte.hu> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |117219


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117219
[Bug 117219] Switching read-only spreadsheet to edit mode switches to form
design mode

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 107006, which changed state.

Bug 107006 Summary: Form control properties / Background color / Can only apply recently-used colors
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107006

What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Buovjaga <***@suomi24.fi> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |117512


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117512
[Bug 117512] The loading of the properties dialog form settings is a little
slow when opening it with double click

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Buovjaga <***@suomi24.fi> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |118142


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118142
[Bug 118142] FILESAVE DOCX The width of Combobox/drop-down list Form control
element increase

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Thomas Lendo <***@gmail.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |118612


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118612
[Bug 118612] Form control on master page is visible in show mode, but not in
edit mode

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Gabor Kelemen <***@ubuntu.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |118169


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118169
[Bug 118169] FILESAVE DOCX ActiveX form control saved incorrectly with
Hungarian accented letters

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Gabor Kelemen <***@ubuntu.com> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |118651, 118684


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118651
[Bug 118651] FILESAVE DOCX Text box form control loses Text type property
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118684
[Bug 118684] FILESAVE DOCX Form control font properties are incorrectly saved

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|RESOLVED |NEW
Resolution|FIXED |---

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

[b***@bugs.documentfoundation.org]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|RESOLVED |NEW
Resolution|FIXED |---

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Xisco Faulí <***@libreoffice.org> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |113789


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113789
[Bug 113789] ActiveX button's icon is not saved back to DOCX file

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Buovjaga <***@suomi24.fi> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |119446


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119446
[Bug 119446] Form controls Design Mode impacts speed

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Aron Budea <***@caesar.elte.hu> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |120225


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120225
[Bug 120225] FILEOPEN Reference field to text field in DOC is broken

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Buovjaga <***@suomi24.fi> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |120282


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120282
[Bug 120282] Form element List Box should disable its Multiselection option, if
Dropdown option is set to Yes

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 120317, which changed state.

Bug 120317 Summary: Form Controls no displayed in Design mode
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120317

What |Removed |Added
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Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 107206, which changed state.

Bug 107206 Summary: form control List Box drop down does not work
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107206

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 117219, which changed state.

Bug 117219 Summary: Switching read-only spreadsheet to edit mode switches to form design mode
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117219

What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 112130, which changed state.

Bug 112130 Summary: Hyperlink button doesn't have hyperlink edit entry in context menu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112130

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

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Dieter Praas <dgp-***@gmx.de> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |121045


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121045
[Bug 121045] OLE form control checkbox is larger than in Word

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
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Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 116702, which changed state.

Bug 116702 Summary: FORMCONTROL: Option button behavior and tabbing are in conflict, naming convention is suspect
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116702

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |INSUFFICIENTDATA

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
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Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
Resolution|FIXED |---

[b***@bugs.documentfoundation.org]

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 108687, which changed state.

Bug 108687 Summary: Form option buttons not reachable with tab key
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108687

What |Removed |Added
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Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 118166, which changed state.

Bug 118166 Summary: FILEOPEN DOCX Document with Form Controls always opens in design mode
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118166

What |Removed |Added
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Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742
Bug 107742 depends on bug 118684, which changed state.

Bug 118684 Summary: FILESAVE DOCX Form control font properties are incorrectly saved
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118684

What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Roman Kuznetsov <***@mail.ru> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |121541


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121541
[Bug 121541] CRASH moving group box form anchored to character in header

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Roman Kuznetsov <***@mail.ru> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |105972


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105972
[Bug 105972] PDF form export does not save field types

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Roman Kuznetsov <***@mail.ru> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |108222


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108222
[Bug 108222] PDF Form: Bad characters metrics?

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107742

Roman Kuznetsov <***@mail.ru> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |84963


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84963
[Bug 84963] Czech accents (especially ě, ř, ů,ú) in editable part of forms
don't preview correctly in some PDF readers